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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Safety Showers and Eyewashes
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 3:06:37 PM
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From: Alan Hall <oldeddoc**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Safety Showers and Eyewashes
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:41:35 -0500
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Robert et al,

I think I am the only member of DCHAS who is also a voting member of the ISEA Eyewash and Shower Product Interest Group and a member of the Z358.1 Standard revision committee.

We are currently in the process of our usual 5-year revision cycle which will replace the current 2014 Standard with the upcoming 2019 Standard.

Copies of the Standard can be easily obtained (there is a fee of which I do not get anything of). I suspect but do not know that ISEA has archived copies of all previous Standards.

Your best contact person there is Cristine Fargo:

International Safety Equipment Association (ISEA)
1901 North Moore Street
Arlington, VA 22209-1762
(703) 525-1695
www.safetyequipment.org

I susggest contacting ISEAfor copies of the current, upcoming revision, and possibly past Standards.

I amnot familiar with Califormia regulations, and so cannot advise you there. Isuggest following Rob Toreki's advise.

Alan
Alan H. Hall, M.D.
Medical Toxicologist

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM ILPI Support <info**At_Symbol_Here**ilpi.com> wrote:
Given your location, I would look to the University of California system for guidance on how they handle the issue. Debbie Decker (UC Davis), Russell Vernon (UC Riverside) and others on the list here will be your best resources!

Insofar as a copy of the current standard: https://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=ANSI%2FISEA+Z358..1-2014

CalOSH should be able to supply the 1981 copy.

Rob Toreki

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On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Robert Kojima <rkojima**At_Symbol_Here**SDCCD.EDU> wrote:

DCHAS,
I am in California and there seems to be some confusion in my organization regarding Safety Showers, Eye and Face washes in 8 CCR 5162 and the ANSI Z538.1 standard. Specifically our regulations calls for the ANSI-1981 standard to be followed, but some in my organization insist that we should be following the latest standard, even though the regulations specifically state 1981. This has some ramifications, specifically the 1981 standard calls for higher flow rates in safety showers and monthly testing whereas the newest standard calls for lower flow rates and weekly testing.
I have tried several resources within my organization to obtain the actual current and 1981 ANSI standards text, but I am unable to do so. Can anyone point me to a source for more information (separate to manufacturers summary sheets), or offer some light on this matter?
Regards,
Robert
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