Sounds like a rather dim view of humanity.
I guess I have greater trust and respect for the goodness of 99.9% of humanity (including EHS and faculty and administrators and small business owners too <grin>).
Let’s engage our EHS colleagues in a positive and affirmative way.
For example, LSI would like to receive 2015-16 nominations from EHS department for the LSI National Award for the PI with the best lab safety program in his or her research group. … Jim
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In an ideal world, yes. But I can easily imagine a situation in which the EHS Dept or personal therein perceive pressure from the administration or EHS head to write something that is not, um, entirely accurate. Likewise, we've also heard at least one incident on the list where an EHS gatekeeper was on a power trip.
Moreover, if a Fellowship was denied because of a bad letter from the EHS dept, it immediately fosters an adverserial relationship between that PI's research group and the EHS dept, one that could easily spread to faculty colleagues.
Finally, this also gets us into the mode where PI's might be tempted to not report safety issues so as to keep a clean paper record.
Maybe if there is some kind of checklist for EHS Departments to use….or maybe require the PI's university to fill out form concerning reportable OSHA, civil, and criminal incidents.
You also have to consider that the rock stars of the research world move around a lot. There will need to be a mechanism to check with the PI's previous employers say, 10 years back.
Rob
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On Dec 16, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Jim Kaufman <jim**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETYINSTITUTE.ORG> wrote:
Why not require a letter of support from the institution’s EHS Department?
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