Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:56:26 -0500
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From: Melinda Toumi <melindatoumi**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: new set of rules kick in
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I think that (some/many) students do not take safety seriously or perhaps d o not see it as a personal responsibility. melinda On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Kennedy, Sheila wrote : > I=92d very interested in your list for the =93new set of rules [that] ki ck > in=94 when our students move into industry. **** > > ** ** > > *Sheila* > > --**** > > Sheila M. Kennedy, CHO**** > > Safety Coordinator **** > > (858) 534 - 0221**** > > ** ** > > Teaching Laboratories **** > > Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry**** > > University of California, San Diego**** > > *2011 NIOSH Collegiate Safety Award* > > ** ** > > *From:* DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] *On Behalf > Of *Long, Don > *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2011 7:21 AM > *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [DCHAS-L] Leg Coverings in Labs**** > > ** ** > > It is also very helpful to us out in the "world" if students are trained to > observe safety practices that will be required when they get to us. A who le > new set of rules kick in when they go from being "students" to being > "employees". **** > > **** > > To borrow a term from my Army days - "*train the same way that you will > fight*". **** > > **** > > **** > > *Don A. Long* > CAIH, CEAS I > Southwest Research Institute Laboratory > Pine Bluff Chemical Agent Disposal Facility > PO Box 20130 > White Hall, AR 71612 > 870-541-4930 **** > > **** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] * On Behalf > Of *Nolan, Dennis H > *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:48 PM > *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [DCHAS-L] Leg Coverings in Labs**** > > It=92s an ongoing process in academia. We strongly recommend too. **** > > **** > > Here=92s a poster we developed to help educate.**** > > **** > > **** > > http://www.utexas.edu/safety/ehs/lab/no_pants_no_shoes.pdf**** > > **** > > **** > > Dennis Nolan**** > > The University of Texas at Austin**** > > **** > > *From:* DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] * On Behalf > Of *Larry McLouth > *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:25 PM > *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [DCHAS-L] Leg Coverings in Labs**** > > **** > > Berkeley Lab: > > Safety glasses with side shields, long pants and closed toe shoes are > required upon entry to a lab space > > Lab coat and chemically resistant gloves are additionally required when > handling chemicals. > > This PPE is supplemented with goggles, aprons etc., depending on the > material and degree of hazard > > Regards > > Larry > > > > On 9/29/2011 8:55 AM, Shiel, Dan wrote: **** > > I am interested to benchmark what other organizations do/ require > regarding leg coverings in labs. Are legs required to be covered in all > labs? Or in some labs, but not others (e.g., in chemistry labs, but > biology/ biotech)? I realize that the default answer most of us who are EHS > professionals would provide is =93yes, of course leg coverings are requir ed in > labs!=94, but again I am curious to learn what others actually doing and if > the issue is directly addressed via your site CHP or other documents.**** > > **** > > My site currently =93strongly recommends=94 leg coverings in all labs and > require them in labs using radioisotopes in our CHP (and in general have > very few folks who actually wear shorts and/or skirts in labs, but some d o > on occasion), but are re-visiting this issue as part our ongoing risk > assessment process. **** > > **** > > Regards,**** > > **** > > Dan**** > > **** > > Dan Shiel, MBA, CSP, CHMM**** > > Director, Risk & Quality Management Services**** > > Pfizer La Jolla**** > > 10777 Science Center Drive**** > > San Diego, CA 92121**** > > ** ** > > This e-mail and any attachments contain URS Corporation confidential > information that may be proprietary or privileged. If you receive this > message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should not retain , > distribute, disclose or use any of this information and you should destro y > the e-mail and any attachments or copies.**** > > ** ** > -- Melinda L Toumi Ph.D. University of Kansas Department of Chemistry 785-864-3896 melindatoumi**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com

I think that (some/many) students do not take safety seriously or perhaps d o not see it as a personal responsibility.

melinda

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Kennedy, Sheila <s1kennedy**At_Symbol_Here**ucsd.edu > wrote:

I=92d very interested in your list for the =93new set of rules [that] ki ck in=94 when our students move into industry.

=A0

Sheila

--

Sheila M. Kennedy, CHO

Safety Coordinator

(858) 534 - 0221

=A0

Teaching Laboratories

Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry

University of California, San Diego

2011 NIOSH Collegiate Safety Award< /b>

=A0

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Long, Don
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:21 AM
To: DCHAS- L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Leg Coverings in Labs

=A0

It is also very helpful to us out in the "world&quo t; if students are trained to observe safety practices that will be require d when they get to us. A whole new set of rules kick in when they go from being "stud ents" to being "employees".

=A0

To borrow a term from my Army days - "trai n the same way that you will fight".

=A0

=A0

Don A. Long
CAIH, CEAS I
Southwest Research Institute La boratory
Pine Bluff Chemical Agent Dispo sal Facility
PO Box 20130
White Hall, AR 71612
870-541-4930

=A0


From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Nolan, Dennis H
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:48 PM
To: DCHAS- L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Leg Coverings in Labs

It=92s an ongoing process in academia.=A0 We strongly recommend too. =A0

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Here=92s a poster we developed to help educate.

=A0

=A0

http://www.utexas.edu/safety/ehs/lab/no_pants_no_shoes.p df

=A0

=A0

Dennis Nolan

The University of Texas at Austin

=A0

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Larry McLouth
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:25 PM
To: DCHAS- L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Leg Coverings in Labs

=A0

Berkeley Lab:

Safety glasses with side shields, long pants and closed toe shoes are requi red upon entry to a lab space

Lab coat and chemically resistant gloves are additionally required when han dling chemicals.

This PPE is supplemented with goggles, aprons etc., depending on the materi al and degree of hazard

Regards

Larry

On 9/29/2011 8:55 AM, Shiel, Dan wrote:

I am interested to benchm ark =A0what other organizations do/ require regarding leg coverings in labs .=A0 Are legs required to be covered in all labs?=A0 Or in some labs, but n ot others (e.g., in chemistry labs, but biology/ biotech)?=A0 I realize that the default answer most of us who are EHS prof essionals would provide is =93yes, of course leg coverings are required in labs!=94, but again I am curious to learn what others actually doing and if the issue is directly addressed via your site CHP or other documents.

=A0

My site currently =93stro ngly recommends=94 leg coverings in all labs and require them in labs using radioisotopes in our CHP (and in general have very few folks who actually wear shorts and/or skirts in labs, but some do on occasion), but are re-visiting this issue as part our ongoing risk a ssessment process.=A0

=A0

Regards,

=A0

Dan

=A0

Dan Shiel, MBA, CSP, CHMM

Director, Risk & Quality Management Services

Pfizer La Jolla

10777 Science Center Drive

San Diego, CA 92121

=A0

This e -mail and any attachments contain URS Corporation confidential information that may be proprietary or privileged. If you receive this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should not retain, distribute, disclos e or use any of this information and you should destroy the e-mail and any attachments or copies.

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--
Melinda L Toumi=A0 Ph.D .
University of Kansas
Department of Chemistry
785-864-3896
melindatoumi**At_Symbol_Here**gmai l.com

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