Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:18:06 -0400
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From: Craig Conway <conway.csa**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Broken Foot and Open-toed Shoes
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I don't think common grad student shoes meet the standards that we're holding this disabled person's apparatus too. If you do use an outer covering, make sure to strap it down tight to reduce trip hazard (zip ties might work). If anyone's staff are working with organophosphates or similar hazards then you might consider updating your shoe policy past a "closed toe" policy. Industrial yellow, boot covers might be what you're looking for. (pictured here: http://www.maricproducts.com/Yellow-17-Rubber-Slush-Boots-1pr_p_4724.html) On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Alan Hall wrote: > Shiela, > > While "common sense" is often anything less than common, this seems to ha ve > been a reasonable solution. > > For example: under ADA, something as simple as some 4x4 wood blocks with > drilled holes to safely raise a computer work station can be "reasonable > accommodation" for a disabled wheelchair user who can otherwise do the jo b > just fine. > > Please note, however, that certain chemicals (organophosphate pesticides > and similar compounds) can leach into leather and can be nearly impossibl e > to decontaminate, such that if they are potent enough, the leather itself > provides a reservoir for skin penetration and toxicity. I'd suggest that > certain metals, POCs, and some organic solvents might have similar > properties. > > As an anecdote, an older rancher who had a pair of snakeskin cowboy boots > was life-threateningly-poisoned with a potent OP pesticide. He was weari ng > pair of snakeskin boots at the time and wouldn't give them up, no matter > what we said. When he was finally well and ready to be discharged from t he > hospital, he put those boots back on and made it as far as the front door , > when he again became life-threateningly poisoned. After that, we made su re > those boots were incinerated as hazardous waste and the rancher went on t o > do well afterwards. > > Kudos. Shiela > > Alan > Alan H. Hall, M.D. > Medical Toxicologist > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:43:28 -0700 > From: s1kennedy**At_Symbol_Here**UCSD.EDU > > Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Broken Foot and Open-toed Shoes > To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU > > I=92m sorry for being late on this; I=92m reading old SAFETY & DCHAS-L m ail > today. > > > > We just had this situation in our Teaching Labs - student doing well in all > respects except covering the toe that protruded from the orthopedic boot she > needed. I purchased ballet slippers for her, which provided a thin layer of > leather over the toes, giving her cut resistance and some splash protecti on > without adding a lot of bulk. Sizing took some guesswork, but the cost wa s > less than $15. > > * * > > *Sheila*** > > *--* > Sheila M. Kennedy, CHO > Safety Coordinator > Chemistry & Biochemistry Teaching Laboratories > University of California, San Diego > (858) 534-0221 > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:55 AM, > > Brennan, Catherine (Environment Health & Safety) > wrote: > > We have a graduate student in our Chemistry Department who broke her foot > and is now wearing a boot that has open toes for the next 6-8 weeks (no > crutches). Has anybody come up against this situation before and do you > know of any protective devices that can be worn and still allow the stude nt > to work in the lab while meeting the =93no open-toed shoes in lab=94 > requirements? Thanks for your help. > > -Cathy > > Catherine R. Brennan > Chemical Hygiene Officer > Environment, Health and Safety > CB#1650 > 1120 Estes Drive Extension > University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-1650 > (919) 843-5331 > (919) 962-0227 FAX > > > > >

I don't think common grad student shoes meet the standards that we' re holding this disabled person's apparatus too.=A0


If you do use an outer covering, make sure to strap it down tight to reduce trip hazard (zip ties might work).

If anyone's staff are working with organophosphates or similar hazards then you might consider updating your shoe policy past a "closed toe" policy. Industrial yellow, boot covers might be wh at you're looking for. (pictured here:=A0http://www.maricpro ducts.com/Yellow-17-Rubber-Slush-Boots-1pr_p_4724.html)





On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Alan Hall < ahalltoxic**At_Symbol_Here**msn.com> wro te:
Shiela,
=A0
While=A0"common sense" is often anything less than common, this s eems to have been a reasonable solution.
=A0
For example: under ADA, something as simple as some 4x4 wood=A0blocks with drilled holes to safely raise a computer work station can be "reasonab le accommodation" for a disabled wheelchair user who can otherwise do the job just fine.
=A0
Please note, however, that certain chemicals (organophosphate pesticides an d similar compounds) can leach into leather and can be nearly impossible to decontaminate, such that if they are potent enough, the leather itself pro vides a reservoir for skin penetration and toxicity. I'd suggest that c ertain metals, POCs, and some organic solvents might have similar propertie s.
=A0
As an anecdote, an older rancher who had a pair of snakeskin cowboy boots w as life-threateningly-poisoned with a potent OP pesticide.=A0 He was wearin g pair of snakeskin boots at the time and wouldn't give them up, no mat ter what we said.=A0 When he was finally well and ready to be discharged fr om the hospital, he put those boots back on and made it as far as the front door, when he again became life-threateningly poisoned.=A0 After that, we made sure those boots were incinerated as hazardous waste and the rancher w ent on to do well afterwards.
=A0
Kudos. Shiela
=A0
Alan
Alan H. Hall, M.D.
Medical Toxicologist
=A0
=A0

=A0


Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:43:28 -0700
From: s1kennedy**At_Symbol_Here**UCSD.EDU

Sub ject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Broken Foot and Open-toed Shoes
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU

I=92m sorry for being late on this; I=92m reading old SAFETY & DCHAS -L mail today.

=A0

We just had this situation in our Teaching Labs - student doing well i n all respects except covering the toe that protruded from the orthopedic b oot she needed. I purchased ballet slippers for her, which provided a thin layer of leather over the toes, giving her cut resistance and some splash p rotection without adding a lot of bulk. Sizing took some guesswork, but the cost was less than $15.

=A0

She ila

--
Sheila M. Kennedy, CHO
Safety Coordin ator
Chemistry & Biochemistry Teaching Laboratories
University of Califor nia, San Diego

(858) 534-0221

=A0

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:55 AM,

Brennan, Catherine (Environment Health & Safety) <CRBRENNAN**At_Symbol_Here**ehs.unc.edu> w rote:

We have a graduate student in our Chemistry Department who broke her foo t and is now wearing a boot that has open toes for the next 6-8 weeks (no c rutches).=A0 Has anybody come up against this situation before and do you k now of any protective devices that can be worn and still allow the student to work in the lab while meeting the =93no open-toed shoes in lab=94 requir ements?=A0 Thanks for your help.

-Cathy

=A0Catherine R. Brennan
Chemical Hygiene Officer
Environment, Healt h and Safety
CB#1650
1120 Estes Drive Extension
U niversity of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Chapel Hill, NC=A0 27599-1650
(919) 843-5331
(919) 962-0227 FAX

=A0

=A0


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