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Subject: Re: Eye protection in chemistry labs
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:05:13 -0500
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:56:35 -0500
Author: Margaret Rakas


Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 10:23:01 -0600
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From: Patrick A Ceas <ceas**At_Symbol_Here**STOLAF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Eye protection in chemistry labs
In-Reply-To: <D2030EF7A3C34EFF9BCFBAC13C8CE30F**At_Symbol_Here**bruekbergterm1>




Unfortunately we (i.e., the extended community of people who use/handle/sell
hazardous chemicals & associated equipment) are not in agreement on the
importance of safety, or at the very least not all folks are well-informed
on proper PPE, SOP's, etc., otherwise we would not be having this
discussion.

I agree with Chris & Monona that the time has come for C&EN to require that
the advertisers submit images that display at the very least proper PPE --
given these companies' advertising budgets, the cost of taking a few new
photos surely can't be much.  As Neal stated it is true that C&EN works hard
to ensure that proper safety practices are shown in the scientific articles,
but (sorry, Neal) this also needs to carry over to the ads.  I would also
argue that it is more efficient to convince C&EN to require/educate about
the importance of such ads instead of going after all the individual ABC
companies.

Pat Ceas


On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Ben Ruekberg  wrote:

>  Might it not be possible to compromise?  I think we are all in agreement
> on the importance of safety.
>





Unfortunately we (i.e., the extended community of people who use/handle/sel
l hazardous chemicals & associated equipment) are not in agreement on t
he importance of safety, or at the very least not all folks are well-inform
ed on proper PPE, SOP's, etc., otherwise we would not be having this di
scussion.=A0 




I agree with Chris & Monona that the time has come for C&EN to 
require that the advertisers submit images that display at the very least p
roper PPE -- given these companies' advertising budgets, the cost of ta
king a few new photos surely can't be much.=A0 As Neal stated it is tru
e that C&EN works hard to ensure that proper safety practices are shown
 in the scientific articles, but (sorry, Neal) this also needs to carry ove
r to the ads.=A0 I would also argue that it is more efficient to convince C
&EN to require/educate about the importance of such ads instead of goin
g after all the individual ABC companies. 



Pat Ceas



On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 
at 7:27 AM, Ben Ruekberg <bruekberg**At_Symbol_Here**chm.uri.edu> wrote:<
br>




















Might it not b
e possible to compromise?=A0
I think we are all in agreement on the importance of safety.<
/p>

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