Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:51:39 -0500
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From: Mary Ellen A Scott <mas35**At_Symbol_Here**CASE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Nickel Carbonyl
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Hi John, Sure John, the process has been around for quite awhile, (along with the chemists, I might add) but the concern is a student research setting. The questions you present are well considered and appreciated. Thank you, Mary Ellen On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Nail, John wrote: > Despite cute internet nick names, nickel carbonyl (along with all other > substances) can be handled safely. > > > > Some questions: > > > > Does the researcher / lab have experience handling highly toxic volatile > liquids or gases? > > > > Does the researcher have the proper equipment? This material should alway s > be handled either in a glove box or a Schlenk line ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlenk_line) > ;. > > > > Is the Schlenk line in a well-functioning hood? > > > > How will any vapors that come out of the inert gas bubbler or vacuum trap > or vacuum pump exhaust be destroyed? > > > > The decomposition if Ni(CO)4 to Ni produces CO - how will this be destr oyed > or vented? > > > > If the lab is experienced in air-sensitive techniques and has the proper > equipment setup, etc., this should not be a problem. If it is someone > (usually an engineer or a physical chemist) who saw this in the literatur e > and is thinking =91it can=92t be that hard=92 - forget it. > > > > John Nail > > Professor of Chemistry (and former AsH3 researcher) > ------------------------------ > > *From:* DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] *On Behalf > Of *Mary Ellen A Scott > *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:24 PM > > *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU > *Subject:* [DCHAS-L] Nickel Carbonyl > > > > One of our researchers would like to use nickel carbonyl to purify nickel . > We call it liquid death. Does anyone have first hand knowledge working w ith > with this compound? > > Thanks > Mary Ellen >

Hi John,

Sure John, the process has been around for quite awhile, (a long with the chemists, I might add) but the concern is a student research setting.=A0 The questions you present are well considered and appreciated.< br>
Thank you,
Mary Ellen

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Nail, John <jnail**At_Symbol_Here**okcu.edu> wrote:

Despite cute i nternet nick names, nickel carbonyl (along with all other substances) can be handled safely.

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Some questions :

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Does the resea rcher / lab have experience handling highly toxic volatile liquids or gases?

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Does the resea rcher have the proper equipment? This material should always be handled either in a glove box or a Schlenk line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlenk_line);.

=A0

Is the Schlenk line in a well-functioning hood?

=A0

How will any v apors that come out of the inert gas bubbler or vacuum trap or vacuum pump exhaust be destroyed?

=A0

The decomposit ion if Ni(CO)4 to Ni produces CO - how will this be destroyed or vented?

=A0

If the lab is experienced in air-sensitive techniques and has the proper equipment setup, etc., this should not be a problem. If it is someone (usually an engineer or a physical chemist) who s aw this in the literature and is thinking =91it can=92t be that hard=92 - forget it.

=A0

John Nail

Professor of C hemistry (and former AsH3 researcher)


From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Mary Ellen A Scott
Sent: Thursday, November 1 9, 2009 4:24 PM


To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Nickel Carbonyl

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One of our researchers would like to use nickel carb onyl to purify nickel.=A0 We call it liquid death.=A0 Does anyone have first hand knowledge working with with this compound?

Thanks
Mary Ellen


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