Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:08:20 -0700
Reply-To: Laurence Doemeny <ldoemeny**At_Symbol_Here**COX.NET>
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From: Laurence Doemeny <ldoemeny**At_Symbol_Here**COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs
Comments: To: "Dr. Jay A. Young"
In-Reply-To: <31DB929CC3C04E48A2E021E95253E6C3**At_Symbol_Here**chemical6df00a>
Here is how NIH does it:

Here is their general web site:

 

http://dohs.ors.od.nih.gov/student_labtraining.htm

 

and the link that has information on restrictions:

 

http://dohs.ors.od.nih.gov/student_minors.htm

 

I would think that the institution where the student works would be 
required
to take that institution's safety training before being allowed to work 
in
the laboratory.

-----Original Message-----
From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of 
Dr.
Jay A. Young
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:11 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

Ralph,

The ACS program, "Project Seed" specifically allows, and pays a small 
salary

to students who help out, and learn some chemistry, in real labs under 
the 
supervision of an experienced mentor.  The basic idea is two-fold, help 
deserving students earn a little money and perhaps recruit new minds 
into 
becoming candidates for the next Nobel in chemistry.

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralph Stuart" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:30 AM
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

>A DCHAS-L member who preferred to ask this question anonymously asked  
me 
>to post this...
>
> - Ralph
>
> Our industrial laboratory has previously allowed high school students 
> (under age 18) to shadow researchers in the laboratory.  The parents  
must

> sign a release form to allow emergency medical treatment and  disclose 
any

> prescription medications the student is currently  taking.  There is a 

> lengthy and serious safety presentation with the  students and their 
> mentors prior to entering the lab.  The students  are allowed to 
observe 
> low risk experiments, e.g., room temperature  reactions, pipeting 
non-BBP 
> materials into multi-well plates, use of  microscopes and surface 
analysis

> equipment and HPLC's, etc.  The  students are not allowed into high 
hazard

> areas such as hazardous drug  labs or to observe experiments that 
involve 
> pyrophoric reagents  (hydrides, etc.).  The mentor must accompany the 
> student in the  laboratory 100% of the time.
>
> We have had a recent request from management to allow a high school 
> student (< 18 years old) to actually conduct experiments in our  
research 
> laboratory during the summer.  Do any industrial labs allow  high 
school 
> students to participate in a summer research project?   What are the 
> limitations?  Do you have any guidelines to share?
>
> We have considered having a local university allow the student to work 
 in

> their lab and our company sponsor the project.
> 

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